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Bill Maher discussed Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert's rally last, saying it should have had a point. During a long "New Rule" Maher disputed the idea that the Left is just as much to blame for the level of discourse in this country as the Right.

"The message of the rally, as I heard it, was that if the media stopped giving voice to the crazies on both sides, then maybe we could restore sanity. It was all nonpartisan and urged cooperation with the moderates on the other side forgetting that Obama tried that and found out...there are no moderates on the other side. When Jon announced his rally, he said the national conversation was dominated by people on the Right who believe Obama's a Socialist and people on the Left who believe 9/11's an inside job, but I can't name any Democratic leaders who think 9/11's an inside job. But Republican leaders who think Obama's a Socialist? All of them."

Maher noted that Colbert and Stewart are his friends, but bemoaned the idea that the insanity is equally distributed in both parties. "Keith Olbermann is right when he says he's not the equivalent of Glenn Beck. One reports facts the other one is very close to playing with his poop. And the big mistake of modern media has been this notion of balance for balance's sake. That the Left is just as violent and cruel as the Right...there's a difference between a mad man and a madman," he said, referencing Olbermann's tweets. Maher went on to poke holes in Jon's arguments, saying "Martin Luther King spoke on that Mall in the capital and he didn't say, 'Remember folks, those southern sheriffs with the fire hoses and the German shepherds, they have a point too.' No, he said I have a dream, they have a nightmare...Liberals, like the ones on that field, must stand up and be counted and not pretend that we're as mean, or greedy, or short-sighted or just plain bat-shit as they are. And if that's to polarizing for you, and you still wanna reach across the aisle...try church"


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Post to Facebook.Post to Blogger.Post to Twitter.Post to WordPress.Post to TypePad.Post to Tumblr.Post to Yahoo! View All Favorites Recency  |  Popularity Page: 1 2 3 4 5 Next › Last »  (69 total) photo HUFFPOST SUPER USER abbyrose86   3 minutes ago (11:40 PM) 2781 Fans Let's face it...not everyone in this country IS interested in governmental politics. Many ignore it completely.

However, politics permeates every aspect of life, whether we acknowledge it or not. There is politics in one's workplace, community....even in one's home. WE tend to forget that and only equate politics with governance, but the concepts are everywhere and DO help formulate one's thinking and belief systems, which in turn affect one's behavior.

Most people who took the time to go to the rally, DID so, because they were motivated or impassioned by their perceptions of what they thought the rally was going to be....they didn't travel to DC for a comedy show, which they could have seen anywhere on any given night. THEY went there to come together to make a point.

THE main reason people WENT to the rally WAS political whether Jon painted it as such is rather irrelevant. While Jon may have wanted to get past the 'politics' of governance, his point was political as well...maybe a moderate, centrist political view of media...but it was political. abbyrose86: Let's face it...not everyone in this country IS interested in http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/abbyrose86/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564145.html Permalink  | Share it photo HUFFPOST SUPER USER Shawntay Nelson   2 minutes ago (11:42 PM) 126 Fans Follow Good Point! Shawntay_Nelson: Good Point! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Shawntay_Nelson/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564282.html Permalink  | Share it photo kevski   1 minute ago (11:42 PM) 9 Fans Nicely said indeed!!!! kevski: Nicely said indeed!!!! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/kevski/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564336.html Permalink  | Share it photo HUFFPOST SUPER USER Shawntay Nelson   4 minutes ago (11:40 PM) 126 Fans Follow Uuuhhhmm! Why are we even arguing about this? This is the problem that Libs and Dems have now. While we are fighting amongst ourselves about things that have little or no relevance and trying to convince each other that "our opinion" is "the right opinion," the right slowly approaches the finish line. This is part of the message that I took from November 2nd. I really hope the rest of us got the same memo! Shawntay_Nelson: Uuuhhhmm! Why are we even arguing about this? This is http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Shawntay_Nelson/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564112.html Permalink  | Share it photo HUFFPOST SUPER USER abbyrose86   2 minutes ago (11:41 PM) 2781 Fans NOW that is a very good point...we do fight amongst ourselves often and don't present a united front. abbyrose86: NOW that is a very good point...we do fight amongst http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/abbyrose86/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564259.html Permalink  | Share it photo YLS2007   5 minutes ago (11:38 PM) 285 Fans Spot on Bill. The event on the mall turned out to be an ideological fantasy festival, not a rally to restore sanity. That can't be accomplished with people that have no interest and ability to be sane. Or as Bill so eloquently stated, people who worship a Fox host on the verge of playing with his own poop... YLS2007: Spot on Bill. The event on the mall turned out http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/YLS2007/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563976.html Permalink  | Share it photo HUFFPOST SUPER USER hokuspokus   5 minutes ago (11:38 PM) 57 Fans Oh and it General "Tah-goo-bah" not Tug-a-boo hokuspokus: Oh and it General "Tah-goo-bah" not Tug-a-boo http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/hokuspokus/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563964.html Permalink  | Share it marilyn 63   7 minutes ago (11:36 PM) 203 Fans yeah that's the only problem i have with the rally and the both sides thing. these tea-GOP came out during the health care town halls. no civility just crazed racist screaming. and the GOP feeding it. Obama and the Dems had to put up with very rude disgusting behavior. with the press repeating about the teabaggers ( well they are really angry!!!). what? not about the country having been bled dry by Bush and the republicans just previous? but Obama for thinking of health care which the people said they wanted. and the Dems for having the thoughtful audacity to have town halls to explain. we let the uneducated racist masses take the narrative. and i wish the rally could have shown that more. their (teabaggers) anger was so phony. marilyn_63: yeah that's the only problem i have with the rally http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/marilyn_63/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563806.html Permalink  | Share it breth23   11 minutes ago (11:33 PM) 0 Fans The people who disregard the rally, are the same people who wanted to but didn't get to go. Yes, what Jon said was a bummer, but that will never take away from the fact that this rally showed sanity. To the people who hate the rally, please take a look at the "Restore Sanity Gallery" and tell me that signs like, "I fought Nazis and none of them looked like Obama" had no purpose at all. The hatred towards the rally, are from people who are bitter. Never in a million years would I think I'd get more aggravated by people here commenting their distaste for the rally than by actual teabaggers.

Oh, and to the people who did go the rally and are calling it irrelevant and in agreement with Maher (i.e. the rally being pointless). You poster either sucked, or you showed up with a poster someone else had—which embarrassed you because you must've worked days on it...somehow thinking that "Boats and Hoes" would be innovative and ironic. breth23: The people who disregard the rally, are the same people http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/breth23/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563552.html Permalink  | Share it photo kevski   6 minutes ago (11:37 PM) 9 Fans O' Really kevski: O' Really http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/kevski/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563885.html Permalink  | Share it breth23   4 minutes ago (11:39 PM) 0 Fans Yep, exactly. Disappointed in yourself. I saw six people with that exact sign at the rally. breth23: Yep, exactly. Disappointed in yourself. I saw six people with http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/breth23/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564056.html Permalink  | Share it There are More Comments on this Thread. Click Here To See them All photo HUFFPOST SUPER USER ruffmama   3 minutes ago (11:40 PM) 156 Fans I was there...and I left feeling so reassured that no matter what happens in any election....America will be OK....by no means does that mean that we should just sit back...we have to fight harder than ever...but I feel much better after being a part of that huge gathering of rational minded people. ruffmama: I was there...and I left feeling so reassured that no http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/ruffmama/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564134.html Permalink  | Share it breth23   0 minute ago (11:43 PM) 0 Fans Thank You! If you weren't at the rally, you just wouldn't understand how great it felt! Even if Jon's message was little...meh. breth23: Thank You! If you weren't at the rally, you just http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/breth23/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564391.html Permalink  | Share it anothervoice2   2 minutes ago (11:41 PM) 396 Fans No one "hated" the rally. Looks like you missed the point entirely. Read this thread. Much of the comments here are expressing an opinion - politely - and backed up with logic and facts. anothervoice2: No one "hated" the rally. Looks like you missed the http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/anothervoice2/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564237.html Permalink  | Share it MrBwood   11 minutes ago (11:32 PM) 67 Fans I like Stewart and Colbert. But Maher is totally correct. MrBwood: I like Stewart and Colbert. But Maher is totally correct. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/MrBwood/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563525.html Permalink  | Share it photo googlymoogly   12 minutes ago (11:32 PM) 3 Fans Bill Maher for president. googlymoogly: Bill Maher for president. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/googlymoogly/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563464.html Permalink  | Share it photo Waitaminute   12 minutes ago (11:31 PM) 418 Fans Comparing Keith Ed and the rest of the liberalS TO BECK AND THE REST was like comparing the doctors at a mental institution to the residents. Now i have always liked Ron Stewart for his intelligence. When something this unfair comes from a very intelligent person, i get suspicious. I know it's beneath them. I asked, what the h** is going on? That segment was one of the most disappointing things i've seen, because it was so out of character. I ask, do they think we are suckers? Waitaminute: Comparing Keith Ed and the rest of the liberalS TO http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Waitaminute/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563409.html Permalink  | Share it photo oldfuzz   13 minutes ago (11:30 PM) 131 Fans To: Bill Maher who said, "...it should have had a point."

It did for me: Things go better when we think for ourselves instead of opting for what others think we should think... something you do all the time and an option available to all who choose to do so. oldfuzz: To: Bill Maher who said, "...it should have had a http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/oldfuzz/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563342.html Permalink  | Share it photo Dave TN   12 minutes ago (11:32 PM) 173 Fans I thought the point was for the sanity to be restored to political discussions. Dave_TN: I thought the point was for the sanity to be http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Dave_TN/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563473.html Permalink  | Share it qwr   4 minutes ago (11:39 PM) 11 Fans That is such a better reason for a rally than, you know, being against war, against discrimination, for the environment, for workplace justice, etc. Stewart's commentary is, admit, fairly innocuous, but let's not pretend that it is all that useful. Don't get me wrong, there were times when I thought Stewart was better--I think that was the time when he actually addressed issues--things that matter. qwr: That is such a better reason for a rally than, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/qwr/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564089.html Permalink  | Share it photo JRRWIRED   13 minutes ago (11:30 PM) 23 Fans Lame. I was comforted that there were double the number of people at Jon's rally than the Glenn Beck rally.

Maher's wrong. JRRWIRED: Lame. I was comforted that there were double the number http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/JRRWIRED/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563316.html Permalink  | Share it photo HUFFPOST SUPER USER BoojWaZEE   14 minutes ago (11:30 PM) 78 Fans The next time Jon Stewart feels motivate to put on frilly costumes and dance around, he should wait until his parents go out shopping and do it in the bathroom with the door locked !!! enough said BoojWaZEE: The next time Jon Stewart feels motivate to put on http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/BoojWaZEE/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563304.html Permalink  | Share it anothervoice2   11 minutes ago (11:32 PM) 396 Fans Looks like you are talking about Giuliani. anothervoice2: Looks like you are talking about Giuliani. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/anothervoice2/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563526.html Permalink  | Share it photo HUFFPOST SUPER USER coveark   0 minute ago (11:43 PM) 558 Fans Or Graham coveark: Or Graham http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/coveark/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564437.html Permalink  | Share it photo kevski   4 minutes ago (11:39 PM) 9 Fans I'm sure you feel confident you told someone off. kevski: I'm sure you feel confident you told someone off. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/kevski/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564092.html Permalink  | Share it photo HUFFPOST SUPER USER BoojWaZEE   0 minute ago (11:44 PM) 78 Fans I feel confident that Stewart's idea of sophomoric humor has NO place whatsoever in U.S. Politics BoojWaZEE: I feel confident that Stewart's idea of sophomoric humor has http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/BoojWaZEE/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564448.html Permalink  | Share it photo inthelandoftheblind   14 minutes ago (11:29 PM) 1127 Fans THANK YOU Bill, for clearly stating the real points where we differ, that do truly matter!
Also on point that, while so many Liberals showing up in Washington for the rally was inspiring, Stewart's point of view was a disappointment

Stewart also missed the mark in the Obama interview, if he was trying to help Liberal causes, that is, by trivializing Obama's actual, situational dilemmas, & ours! inthelandoftheblind: THANK YOU Bill, for clearly stating the real points where http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/inthelandoftheblind/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563262.html Permalink  | Share it photo KillgoreTrout43   16 minutes ago (11:27 PM) 1225 Fans This is where Bill is wrong. He is trying to make the rally and Jon's speech, a political one. Stewart purposely kept the rally an apolitical one. He said before the rally that it wasn't going to be a political rally. So Bill should not have expected it to be political in the first place. KillgoreTrout43: This is where Bill is wrong. He is trying to http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/KillgoreTrout43/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563065.html Permalink  | Share it anothervoice2   12 minutes ago (11:31 PM) 396 Fans Bill Maher is not making a "political: point. Not talking politics, policy or legislation. He is commenting on how we, in this country, view the media rhetoric on both sides of the debate. The same topic Jon commented on during his rally. This is about the fourth estate - which Jon is a part of. Before you say he is a comedian, unfortunately or fortunately Jon's interviews with many guests on his show are more incisive than anything we find in the MSM. Our MSM is in a deplorable state.

Enough with the same old "not a political rally" talking point. Nobody is saying it was. anothervoice2: Bill Maher is not making a "political: point. Not talking http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/anothervoice2/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563432.html Permalink  | Share it photo KillgoreTrout43   3 minutes ago (11:40 PM) 1225 Fans I disagree completely. maybe you should read the article and watch the video again. Maher is making this an US vs Them argument, which by it's very nature is a political argument. KillgoreTrout43: I disagree completely. maybe you should read the article and http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/KillgoreTrout43/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564163.html Permalink  | Share it photo Ivan Brugal   11 minutes ago (11:32 PM) 11 Fans What Bill is saying is precisely that. If being apolitical means watering down the diferences and realities of left and right at the expense of truth, its not worth it.
He could have been apolitical without having to compare the few left saners out there with some pretty weird clowns on equal ground.
Please get it Ivan_Brugal: What Bill is saying is precisely that. If being apolitical http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Ivan_Brugal/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66563514.html Permalink  | Share it photo KillgoreTrout43   1 minute ago (11:42 PM) 1225 Fans No one was suggesting watering down truth or realities. Stewart was saying rise above this whole US vs Them mentality and concentrate on the issues at hand, not who is being nicer than the other guy. Why is this so hard to understand?? KillgoreTrout43: No one was suggesting watering down truth or realities. Stewart http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/KillgoreTrout43/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66564324.html Permalink  | Share it pizzmoe   17 minutes ago (11:26 PM) 72 Fans Bill is absolutely right. pizzmoe: Bill is absolutely right. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/pizzmoe/bill-maher-vs-jon-stewart_n_779944_66562954.html Permalink  | Share it     Page: 1 2 3 4 5 Next › Last »  (69 total) New comments on this entry — Click to refreshspinnerLoading comments… Loading twitter module... Most Popular on HuffPost3bWm%2BaHXUy78tpvh%2B2B8bcFYIRnN%2FQHD%2FsH3qkHrW%2B4kJk1uIIvYtnG%2Fa1Tl7KnWZqvq%2B%2FoTQlwfWlfvffbFOw%3D%3D57mIGBeelmmmbZryOZwkW0rS%2FkaEfZjV37%2FaAtFypS7wgmDQElah8FzAzkOLRWQNJwolBCdWkTQGl63%2FwtE6aw%3D%3D1 of 2 Keith Olbermann Keith Olbermann SUSPENDED From MSNBC Indefinitely Without Pay
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